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File:AN Liana K 1.jpg[edit]

Derivative work: woman dressed like the unfree Power Girl fictional character -- User:Belgrano

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment User:Belgrano tagged this as a speedy delete; I have changed it to a deletion discussion per comments at talk page File talk:AN Liana K 1.jpg Note also image has an OTRS. -- Infrogmation (talk) 15:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
A moment ago, I requested an OTRS ticket check (Commons_talk:OTRS#Power_Girl_ticket_File:AN_Liana_K_1.jpg_.3F) --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete What is there to discuss? The fictional character Power Girl is copyrighted by DC Comics, and to make a costume similar to it is beyond doubt a Derivative Work. What can be said in contrary? People dressing like sitcom or soap opera characters may be ambiguous, but this woman is not dressed in a manner that may be conceived as common everyday clothing or similar. As for the OTRS, surely it says that the photographer licences his work or that the woman has no objection with it's use, but I can bet that there isn't anything said by the owners of the original copyright, wich is not bypassed by the made of a derivative work. By the way, if someone is not aware about that character and thinks this to be just a photo of a woman with big hooters, it's easy to investigate but you can see samples here and read the wikipedia article (short version for people that do not read comics: it's the cousin of Superman, with a twisted story) Belgrano (talk) 01:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The character may be copyright but the performer is not. This is a picture of the performer. --Simonxag (talk) 12:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The construction of the costume is Commons:Fan art and derivative work. There are many fair use images of Power Girl at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:JSA_images --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete Derivative work of Power Girl. It's fair use like w:File:Power Girl.png. AnimeFan (talk) 05:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep. This image is used in the w:Cosplay article to illustrate cosplay at conventions in North America. This image is not in the w:Power Girl article. It's a photo of Liana Kerzner in a costume, taken at Wizard World Chicago 2007 and uploaded to Flickr. Is the nominator suggesting that the costume is an unlicensed derivative work? Does that automatically mean that a photograph where the costume is visible is a derivative work? Why is the nominator focused on the clothing and not the tub of Dubble Bubble or the cover of Ed and Red's Comic Strip issue #2? I don't know of a policy against photos of people in costumes, like File:Tronguy.jpg, so I say keep. If this image is considered fair use, like w:File:Power Girl.png, then I suggest the image be copied over to Wikipedia. --Costumed Adventurer (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes, it is an unlicenced derivative work, unless someone shows me the authorization by DC Comics for it. It doesn't really matter in wich article is it used, or even if it's used in any article at all. In a related issue, I don't know if that comic book mentioned made any copyright violation or not, I don't even know about it (my knowledge of comic books is minimal), but if that copyright violation took place outside of commons it's not at all our issue. By the way, I wouldn't advise to upload it to wikipedia under a fair use claim either: fair use isn't a wild card for anything copyrighted, and a good rationale must be provided to met the strict requirements. An impressive comic book cover that seems like a piece of art is one thing; a woman using a costume at a fan's convention is another Belgrano (talk) 21:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Do you work for DC Comics? The cover of that comic book I mentioned is also in the image up for deletion. It's a photo in a public place. Your argument makes it seem like no photos of costumes are allowed, but it looks to me like they are allowed. Your argument makes it seem like no photos from any conventions are allowed, but it looks to me like they are allowed. Where does it say that photos of costumes are forbidden? If they're forbidden, then why is File:Tronguy.jpg still here? --Costumed Adventurer (talk) 23:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - If the character is copyrighted, then if someone makes a costume of that character, it's a derivative work. Since the copyright terms are doubtless all rights reserved, that costume is a copyright violation. A photo of a copyright violation is still a copyright violation. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Result: Inconclusive As said 3 days ago, there's a wider ongoing deletion request about people costumed like fictional characters. This deletion request, being a single example of the same topic of discussion, does not deserve a separate deletion request. The image is added to that debate, and will be either deleted or kept when that debate is over and closed. This closure is not a final statement about deleting or keeping the file (wich must be done by an unrelated administrator) but just to simplify maintenance Belgrano (talk) 16:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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File:AN_Liana_K_1.jpg[edit]

No OTRS ticket. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 20:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it enough to keep File:Liana K 2.jpg, where everything seems to be o.k. 84.227.66.112 23:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Kept, per MGA73. Kameraad Pjotr 17:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

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