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Location: Co. Durham North East | Metro and R100 K-series engine conversion For a 1.1 & 1.4 Spi to Mpi items you will need for conversion.
mpi fuel pump.
mpi engine loom with all compatable ecu setup
mpi throttle cable or put a niple on the spi one.
mpi exhaust manifold & downpipe.
mpi 4 pole flywheel.
mpi brake vacum.
mpi water pipes. The same items are needed for the 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 16 valve engine conversion. If your R100 is already a 1.1 or 1.4 Mpi engine and your wanting too fit a 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 16 valve engine you'll only need a 200mm clutch, Mpi exhaust manifold with Gti Mpi exhaust down pipe, the rest of the items are already fitted too the car. As above for the vvc conversion into the Metro or R100 with R65 gearbox, but would advise that you buy a 200mm clutch. You will also need a converted engine loom , this can be sourced on the forum by a few members who will do you the loom conversion at a very resonable price. . For the Carb engine Metro's ( k-series ) You'll need all the above but will also need, A Mpi petrol tank complete with full fuel lines & fuel filter. Complete engine bay wiring loom & dash loom with clocks. My advice is too find a scrap R100 and remove all the parts needed to make things alot more easier for the Mpi engine conversion . I would advice that you give the engine a good service before you fit it. New cambelt, water pump, themostat, oil and oil filter, plugs & leads. thanks very much Admin. |
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| Sorry to sound thick (even though i am) but what will i need for a GTi MPi on a L-plate? Just a 200mm clutch? |
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Location: Co. Durham North East | Yes, if your fitting a 1.8 engine ( like you said in your welcome thread ) |
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Roversport replica
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Location: Norfolk | I've read somewhere that the spi and mpi flywheels are the same. Is this not true? |
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Location: Gloucester | metro1.1 - 14/12/2009 6:21 PM
I've read somewhere that the spi and mpi flywheels are the same. Is this not true?
not on the Rover 100s. |
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| Thanks for info, which cars can i source the 1.4-1.6 from (rover 214 216 ect) |
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Location: Norfolk | You say that an mpi throttle cable is needed or put a nipple on the spi one.
My spi throttle cable has a nipple on already, does this still need changing when i do the conversion?
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Location: Co. Durham North East | it'll be better if you get the Mpi throttle cable for the car, it only takes minutes to fit |
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Expert
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Location: Letchworth/Basildon | I'm sure I always had an Spi cable after converting to Mpi |
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Roversport replica
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Location: Norfolk | Is it a different length, or does the mpi throttle linkage put more strain on the cable?
I could understand changing it if it may snap or if it's frayed. but if my spi cable fits then i would prefer to use that rather than source an mpi one.
Also Munday, was your car a 1.4 spi or a 1.1? because my car is a 1.4 gti spi 16v and just thought that the 1.1 spi throttle cable may be different to the 1.4 spi gti's (if it is then vvc warrior is right about needing to change it).
Thanks.
Edited by metro1.1 10/2/2010 1:43 PM
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Location: Letchworth/Basildon | It was a Gti spi same as yours, converted to 1.8 with cams and it was so awesome (now i have a 160vvc...better  ) |
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Location: sittingbourne, kent | metro1.1 - 10/2/2010 9:40 PM
Is it a different length, or does the mpi throttle linkage put more strain on the cable?
I could understand changing it if it may snap or if it's frayed. but if my spi cable fits then i would prefer to use that rather than source an mpi one.
Thanks.
the spi cable is to long, what you can is cut the nipple off and put your own nipple on to shorten it,
l also find on spi models accelerator pedal sit lower due to spi throttle body having less travel.
To oveer come this i bend the pedal up until i have sufficant travel for the mpi throttle body.
Other then that you shouldnt get any problems
Edited by R100_vvc 10/2/2010 1:50 PM
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Location: Norfolk | R100_vvc - 10/2/2010 9:48 PM
metro1.1 - 10/2/2010 9:40 PM
Is it a different length, or does the mpi throttle linkage put more strain on the cable?
I could understand changing it if it may snap or if it's frayed. but if my spi cable fits then i would prefer to use that rather than source an mpi one.
Thanks.
the spi cable is to long, what you can is cut the nipple off and put your own nipple on to shorten it,
l also find on spi models accelerator pedal sit lower due to spi throttle body having less travel.
To oveer come this i bend the pedal up until i have sufficant travel for the mpi throttle body.
Other then that you shouldnt get any problems
Ahh right thanks for the information.
I will just see how the spi cable fits when i get all the parts together for the conversion. because i wouldn't want to ruin the cable if it would've fitted. |
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Location: sittingbourne, kent | when you come to fit the cable, you will see what to do.
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Location: Norfolk | Ok thanks for your help. |
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Location: Swindon | So come, spill the beans. What is the difference between the SPi and MPi flywheels?
Neil
Metromartin - 14/12/2009 9:28 PM
metro1.1 - 14/12/2009 6:21 PM
I've read somewhere that the spi and mpi flywheels are the same. Is this not true?
not on the Rover 100s. |
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Location: Norfolk | MetroHF - 4/3/2010 1:36 PM
So come, spill the beans. What is the difference between the SPi and MPi flywheels?
Neil
I think one as 2 poles and the other 4.
Edited by metro1.1 29/3/2010 10:47 AM
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Location: Coventry | metro1.1 - 29/3/2010 10:46 AM
MetroHF - 4/3/2010 1:36 PM
So come, spill the beans. What is the difference between the SPi and MPi flywheels?
Neil
I think one as 2 poles and the other 4.
Sh*t! ive fitted my flywheel off my spi  Is there no way around it??? Help please! |
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Location: sittingbourne, kent | are you converting a rover metro to mpi or rover 100? |
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Location: Coventry | Rover 100 1.1 spi - Rover 100 1400 mpi |
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Location: sittingbourne, kent | no you will have to change your flywheel for a 4 pole flywheel |
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Location: Coventry | Ah crap, does it make any difference on whether it's a machined groove or the rivited one? |
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drive it like its hired
| be easier to put it back onto the spi injection if its not running and you have used the wrong flywheel |
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Location: Midlands | What 1400 16v ECU are you using?? Are you using a Metro GTi one or one from say a Rover 200 bubble for example? |
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Location: Coventry | The ecu - It will be a Metro gti one i think, a fello racer is sending us one..
Does it make any difference that the car is used on the track and not on the road? The ecu will be getting chipped and re mapped (?)
Would it make any difference running with an aftermarket one ie, Luminition or emerald?
Edited by met30b 6/5/2010 2:10 AM
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Spi & Mpi engine conversion & vvc guide.
