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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | I have been toying with the idea of putting a 1600/1800 16v into my car, so bit the bullet and went for it. My good old jock friend also convinced me to go bike carbs in the future (he is a genius with megajolt and r1 carbs having done many conversions) so here it is.....I will update the progress so far when I get time away from work. Enjoy ![]() | ||
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New user Posts: 7 | I'm the Jock mentioned above,keep waiting for metalmnan to update this thread, he has'nt so I will. Donor car, a badly abused MG ZR, but the engine had been rebuilt by a mate of mine a couple of years ago and hadn't been used much since the car had been crashed into a streetlamp, so we got it running and it ran sweet. ![]() Engine was looking scabby, so it was cleaned up. ![]() | ||
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New user Posts: 7 | ![]() tidying the engine. ![]() ![]() It was treated to a new cam belt and vernier pulleys, these will help optomise the cam timing on the std cams just now and will really be needed when I get the spare head ported, ready for some fast road cams when the R1 conversion takes place. ![]() Here's the car. ![]() In all it's 1100cc glory. ![]() ![]() Bye bye 1100 ![]() ![]() The bolts holding the engine mounting bar had badly corroded heads, these were replaced with ones. ![]() ![]() 1600 flywheel was sourced and lightened. ![]() Lightened flywheel and old std one. ![]() 1600 fitted. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | Look at that ![]() | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | We think we have traced the running problem to a duff pump...will put pics of fuel pressure gauge up soon...will change pump and see what happens. | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | A lot has happened since this was last updated (I will put a proper thread up from start to finish when I get chance) but this is where it stands at the moment....Will add a picture below (once I remember my photo bucket details!) | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | ![]() | ||
DotMatrix![]() |
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | will be exciting to see how you do with the bike carbs. exciting project ![]() | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | The bloke who put the other pics on is a genius with them so all should be good. Excited to hear it and drive it | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | so..as a long overdue update to this. I had a custom manifold made. A few pics are below. The workmanship is unbelievable if I'm honest. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by *metalman* 17/2/2016 5:33 PM | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | And here are some of the manifold fitted up to the car... The real money shot! Its starting to look like a car again instead of a collection of parts. ![]() After this I decided to mock up the carbs onto the engine (excuse the poor fitment, I will be using proper R1 carb rubbers to fit them) ![]() | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | Since the manifold was now in place (held by a top secret rubberised compound - no gasket!), it was time to move on to rebuilding and rejetting the carbs. Step 1. Flip the carbs upside down and remove the underside of the float bowls. ![]() Step 2. Inspect. ![]() Dirty and full of crud! ![]() Step 3. Remove main jet (the slotted bit on top of the big hex) ![]() Step 4. Make the main jet bigger! ![]() Step 5. Refit enlarged main jet. Size depends on engine size and state of tune. Edited by *metalman* 17/2/2016 7:08 PM | ||
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![]() dot dot dot Rally Spec ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Northwest | Looks very nice engine build. | ||
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![]() Regular Posts: 145 ![]() ![]() Location: Lincolnshire | One thing I've never done nor been advised to is drill out jets, that's all a bit silly haha,nice build how ever though | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | your new mainfold looks great but doesn't seem to have the small waterpipe at the cambelt end, will this be a problem? | ||
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New user Posts: 7 | The water pipe fitting was not on the manifold at the time the pics were taken, it is now though. | ||
*metalman*![]() |
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | As Tom said, the manifold was fabricated without the small water pipe fitting,we added this before fitting the manifold to the car, so it all functions as intended. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 697 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: leigh | Got to love a bike carb set up.. I can already here the induction roar! Glad to see some one not following the pack aswel! | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | yes it will be interesting to see a dyno graph ![]() | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 931 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: west bromwich, birmingham | joshmk4 - 18/2/2016 6:55 AM One thing I've never done nor been advised to is drill out jets, that's all a bit silly haha,nice build how ever though done it several times over the years need good drills and a lathe to do it right, how it works ifjet is a 100 that is 1mm hole center so if u needed a 170 jet you would need a 1.70mm drill and so forth ect Alex | ||
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![]() Regular Posts: 145 ![]() ![]() Location: Lincolnshire | Makes sense, but different Carb manufactutes use different number ratings, seems a ballache calculating it? | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | Having a good set of small sized drill bits works wonders. I have driven a couple of bike carb cars that have been done this way and I can assure you they respond very well. It may seem pikey drilling jets but it works. And as above, the induction roar is like nothing else. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 697 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: leigh | How are you going to control the spark? | ||
*metalman*![]() |
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | Spark is controlled by Megajolt. Uses a Ford coilpack and edis and you can map the spark to whatever you like. Edited by *metalman* 2/4/2016 2:01 PM | ||
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Regular Posts: 280 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire | Anyway. To crack on with the rebuild.... Step 6. Remove Idle jet. Step 7. Redrill idle jet a tad larger. ![]() Step 8. Refit idle jet. URL=http://s122.photobucket.com/user/turkey666_ak/media/received_10154015531710628.jpeg.html] ![]() Step 9. Lots of cleaning! To go from this: ![]() To this: ![]() Step 10. Refit float bowls. Step 11. Flip carbs over, remove plastic top and start to check the springs and needles. ![]() Hang on. This spring looks a little shorter than standard. (More on that later!) Step 12. Remove diaphragm and check for dirt/grit. ![]() Looks pretty clean, it wasn't! Step 13. Remove needle from diaphragm body. ![]() Hang on, how many grooves are on top of the needle? (we are almost there.....) Edited by *metalman* 2/4/2016 1:59 PM | ||
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