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Morey

Posted 21/1/2014 9:11 PM (#708976)
Subject: Charcoal Grey GTa RusTROation

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As some of you may know, I now own a R100 GTA in charcoal grey...

What else is there to say...

ITS PROPER FUCKED. Rust has really taken hold and I've taken this mammoth task on to simply say:

Gone are the days of plentiful Tros, Gone are the days of un-rusty Tros

Today I usher in a new age of restoration, an age where welders tire of endless shifts.

no longer do I wish to follow infidels cursing "its not worth it"

No longer can it be told a rusty metro, is a dead one.

They have seen so many decades now its time to stand!

Sons of metropower, of Metro owners club! My brothers!

I see in your eyes the same doubt that would take the motivation from me!

A day may come when the strength of steel fails, Where we Forsake our tools and break all bonds of ownership.

BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY!

An hour of hopelesslness and shattered hands

when the age of metro comes crashing down!

BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY!!!

THIS DAY WE WELD!!!!!!

I bid you stand, Men of the METRO!

Untitled by MetroMorey, on Flickr

Wheres my sill gone?!!!?

Oh there it is:

Untitled by MetroMorey, on Flickr

Tucking her away with my make shift seat...

Untitled by MetroMorey, on Flickr

metro josh

Posted 21/1/2014 10:40 PM (#708985 - in reply to #708976)
Subject: RE: The can it be done project.

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Go for it you CAN do it !!

R100_vvc

Posted 21/1/2014 11:11 PM (#708986 - in reply to #708976)
Subject: RE: The can it be done project.

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Rust looks worse when you poke at it,and left with a dirty hole.
But once you cut it out to a nice square clean shape it will look a lot better, well for me it does.

I bought myself a nice 1985 Austin metro with 15k on the clocks, not been on the road since 06
And expected floors to be mint, but no I got welding to do.

With your gta just try getting replacement panels where you can as it saves a lot of time and effort.
If in doubt cut it out

metrobruce

Posted 21/1/2014 11:51 PM (#708988 - in reply to #708976)
Subject: RE: The can it be done project.

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if you start by re joining the floor to the car as I have had to do with mine you end up feeling better about the job. a job like this seems bad but when you start welding it will come together rather quick. i bought a vvc gti some years ago and the inner and outer sills were that bad. there are a few metros in a scrap yard near to me so if there are any parts that you would like give me a shopping list and some funds +1 pint and I can gather them for you. if your not very good at welding at the moment you will be by the end of this project lol

metro190bhp

Posted 22/1/2014 7:32 AM (#708991 - in reply to #708976)
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Go for it. Focus on one area at a time rather than looking at the lot and you will find it will come along quicker

Navrallymetro

Posted 22/1/2014 8:47 AM (#708994 - in reply to #708976)
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It took us 3 months, welding every evening and every weekend (sundays included) to get our shell finished. The difference was our car looked a whole lot better than yours, it even had an MOT?! But after a few pokes and removing the sound deadening we wondered had we bitten off more than we could chew. It was worth it though, I say go for it! And Good Luck!!

ralphh85

Posted 22/1/2014 9:02 AM (#708995 - in reply to #708976)
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get some pics up

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Posted 22/1/2014 9:38 AM (#708996 - in reply to #708976)
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Morey

Posted 22/1/2014 1:24 PM (#709005 - in reply to #708976)
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Pictures added.

Alex-Metro

Posted 22/1/2014 1:26 PM (#709006 - in reply to #708976)
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Charcoal grey Gta mmmmmmm, shame it's quite rotten but still anything is possible

DotMatrix

Posted 22/1/2014 2:26 PM (#709008 - in reply to #708976)
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what a nice tutorial of where metro's normally rust

but seriously it doesn't look like it has ever had rust-proofing sprayed into the sills or inside the rear arches. I like your enthusiasm, god luck with the welding

111Sli

Posted 22/1/2014 6:18 PM (#709017 - in reply to #708976)
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dipped in rust when new? lol that's mental!!

Oh and George, is that a cheeky little facelift going on aswell?

AdrianSi

Posted 22/1/2014 11:07 PM (#709057 - in reply to #708976)
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It looks like its got some front end damage looking at the Headlamp resister wire hole?

metrobruce

Posted 22/1/2014 11:48 PM (#709059 - in reply to #709008)
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DotMatrix - 22/1/2014 2:26 PM

what a nice tutorial of where metro's normally rust

but seriously it doesn't look like it has ever had rust-proofing sprayed into the sills or inside the rear arches. I like your enthusiasm, god luck with the welding

no just the rust enhancing sunroof drains

Gandi69

Posted 23/1/2014 11:47 AM (#709065 - in reply to #708976)
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id expect there to be mud everywhere in those sill covers and there isn't? was it a car that lived on the coast?

ralphh85

Posted 23/1/2014 11:52 AM (#709066 - in reply to #708976)
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at least you will be a pro welder by the end of it

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Posted 23/1/2014 11:52 AM (#709067 - in reply to #709065)
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Gandi69 - 23/1/2014 11:47 AM

id expect there to be mud everywhere in those sill covers and there isn't? was it a car that lived on the coast?

In the sea I reckon!

SubbyGTi16v

Posted 23/1/2014 1:27 PM (#709073 - in reply to #708976)
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Wow and i thought my shell was rotten. You have some rot in places mine didn't. But better in places where mine was well shot.
If money/time no object go for it.
I smile every day having restored my GTI and got it back on the road.
And every time some one compliments on it( don't see many of those etc ) you get a sense of pride.

Will aka Subbygti

itsonlyme

Posted 23/1/2014 8:19 PM (#709097 - in reply to #708976)
Subject: RE: The can it be done project.

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I am so glad I let you have that, its gone to a good home, best of luck with that, I guess you booked the Mot for about 5 yrs time

redgrave66

Posted 24/1/2014 10:34 AM (#709109 - in reply to #708976)
Subject: RE: The can it be done project.

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Good luck with this one you crazy man, this job will make grey hairs come early

Mad_shaun

Posted 25/1/2014 9:59 PM (#709179 - in reply to #708976)
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anything is possible - its just the time & money issue. My metro had lots of rust a few years back - take your time - cut out a section at a time - and soon you will make some progress.

xoodha

Posted 26/1/2014 6:00 PM (#709203 - in reply to #708976)
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Been there done that....

Turned out alright though,

Morey

Posted 27/1/2014 9:57 PM (#709245 - in reply to #708976)
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So progress today:

Found this hiding away in the corner of the cave:

Untitled by MetroMorey, on Flickr

This is the actual cave! and yes that is a mk1 fiesta that belongs to my dad. Slowly populating this space with various metro spares. The Gta actually came with several spares, 2 wings, gti bumpers and a gti spoiler and a mint gta interior.

Untitled by MetroMorey, on Flickr

Next jobs:

Is cutting the rot out of the floors.
tackling the front chassis legs and front crossmember.
cut and trim good panels out of white shell i own
measure up seriously bad areas for donor panels
buy certain panels (certainly rear valance and possible front crossmember, arches

watch this space, alot of work still to come just preparing for welding. Let alone welding.

Have certain trouble areas, serious structural issues front subframe rear mounting point (driver side) and support rail seriously corroded. Have to drill out spot welds for seat mounts and also support beam for floor. remove and possibly replace. possibly chop entire spare wheel well out and replace after dropping the fuel tank and rear subframe down. probably as ruined as the front subframe was.

Also would like to add i was undoing the front subframes driver side, front mount, and well it crumbled to dust. The engine along with the subframe was holding on to only 3 points of the chassis. 3 out of 4 bolts sheared off from rust. and the grinder came out a few times...

SO MUCH GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING RUST ITS BEYOND CATASTROPHIC

111Sli

Posted 27/1/2014 10:06 PM (#709246 - in reply to #708976)
Subject: RE: Charcoal Grey GTa

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Wow! Quick word of advice. If you buy a genuine Rover rear panel from ebay that it has the wrong 'overplate' (?) on for the 'step' into the boot with the threads for an A series boot latch. It's hard to explain but if you saw you would understand. It is possible to take off and put a K series one on.

Panel you buy from ebay comes complete with light holders and everything but the no. 5 is wrong. Liam has a K series no. 5 he'll prob sell to a good home.

You'll also need the inside part of the rear valance. No. 1 in this diagram...

Morey

Posted 29/1/2014 8:34 PM (#709311 - in reply to #708976)
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today more progress:

Stripped down the rear end. Rear subframe and fuel tank. The grinder came out a few times... lots of hammering smaller sockets onto slightly larger bolts to undo them. Lots of rust and lots of dirt, clag, moss plants webs and spiders.