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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Bought this locost kit car a few months ago for a reasonable price, it's a 1600 crossflow, the kit cars based on the mk2 escort, Plan is to strip the whole lot down and get the frame powder coated, new set of wheels, new body, new seats and fit my 1.4 turbo into it on a type 9 gearbox ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() drive it like its hired ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Liking it, These seem to have gone out of fashion, but I would still buy one! | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Pick up the new body tomorrow, gearbox arrived today, collected the seats last weekend so just needs stripping engine mounted and bell housing made then I can beat Dylan in his lotus ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Picked the new body up today, mk indy fibreglass shell ![]() And type 9 gearbox from a v6 Sierra ![]() | ||
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New user Posts: 14 Location: Lincolnshire | did you pick the v6 box deliberately? if you find an off the shelf bell housing remember the v6 input shaft is longer so needs a longer bell housing. | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Planning on making a bell housing that will fit a pg1 flywheel and possibly adapt the flywheel to accept a Sierra clutch | ||
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New user Posts: 14 Location: Lincolnshire | You've probably already get something in mind but thinking further about the difference in length of the v6 and I4 bell houseings you could use the standard i4 bellhousing which is about an inch shorter and make up a 1 inch adapter to bolt in between. | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Original idea was weld a pg1 bell housing to the type 9, but now have plans to make a completely new one out of thick steel | ||
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![]() drive it like its hired ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | You can buy K to Type 9 bell housings off the shelf | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Yup, but they use the 1.4 flywheels with 1.4 clutch...besides those bell housings, starter motor and clutch cost close too a grand new, I want to use my pg1 lightened flywheel and use a Sierra cosworth clutch or similar too cope with the power | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 925 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Thinking of vvc'ing my Roadster Brabus :-) | dazz 111 - 10/3/2014 6:51 PM Yup, but they use the 1.4 flywheels with 1.4 clutch...besides those bell housings, starter motor and clutch cost close too a grand new, I want to use my pg1 lightened flywheel and use a Sierra cosworth clutch or similar too cope with the power You can use a lightened PG1 flywheel that will take a 228mm clutch instead of the 215 MGF/TF/ZR one. | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Similar to what I have now, the holes have been drilled to accept the rover 220 turbo clutches | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Busy busy busy. .. cars now stripped down to the frame, cut most the back off for the new mk indy body and started making the bellhousing, bought some nice carbon fibre front cycle wings as well what should look great !!! The Bellhousing will be 10mm thick metal on the bolting faces and 5mm thick in between, a bit ott and heavy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Look what was sitting at work for me ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Holes cut ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | How far the bell housings come ![]() Edited by dazz 111 27/3/2014 6:59 PM | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Few goodies, hydraulic clutch conversion kit, pg1 starter and a pedal box kit ![]() Tried a v6 2.3 clutch on the pg1 flywheel but it don't fit!!@@!! So custom clutch it is ![]() | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2029 ![]() ![]() Location: sittingbourne, kent | just thought, why is there 3 master cylinders? hydraulic throttle lol | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | R100_vvc - 27/3/2014 9:16 PM just thought, why is there 3 master cylinders? hydraulic throttle lol one for front one for back linked to the pedal with a balance bar so you can adjust how far each one is pushed sexy pedal box dude !!! OBP ? | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Yup one is for the rears and one for the front with a dash mounted tweaker, similar to the opd I think, both was similar price but this one had the hydraulic fluid tank, should be good fitting it all | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2812 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Bournemouth | Dazz the clutch kept going on the metro, not due to the power, but due to misalignment of the cam cover engine mount (being made by eye) The std 220 turbo clutch will be all you need 250lbft torque is not a lot, nor is the 7500rpm limit The clutch i bought you, was also fitted to a 1.8 turbo k with 300lbft torque in an elise and has no problems. So dont worry too much about a sierra clutch, as they are no better than the 220 turbos ![]() And can i beat Sean first before you get this on the road and destroy the elise......please Also as said on Facebook the original bonnet would be better for a turbo, you want to get air out of the engine bay not it ![]() Edited by djwilma 2/4/2014 11:08 AM | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | djwilma - 2/4/2014 11:07 AM Dazz the clutch kept going on the metro, not due to the power, but due to misalignment of the cam cover engine mount (being made by eye) The std 220 turbo clutch will be all you need 250lbft torque is not a lot, nor is the 7500rpm limit The clutch i bought you, was also fitted to a 1.8 turbo k with 300lbft torque in an elise and has no problems. So dont worry too much about a sierra clutch, as they are no better than the 220 turbos ![]() And can i beat Sean first before you get this on the road and destroy the elise......please Also as said on Facebook the original bonnet would be better for a turbo, you want to get air out of the engine bay not it ![]() Wish I could use the rover 220 clutch but the Splines different to the Ford gearbox, also its about 2mm too big for the flywheel, the holes in the flywheel have been chipping away at the clutch so I'm going to get a rigid 226mm clutch with type 9 spline You don't have too worry lol this won't be on the road till next year or till I win the lottery lol The bonnet should be staying the same, unless if the engine don't fit but that'll only be a intake size bulge into it Will need to open the sides up for the turbo though, quite a tight fit | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Test fit of the body ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 8490 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Midlands | Love the bell housing work. not entirely sure what youre going to do with that, but i look forward to seeing it ![]() Are you going to run with the steels? Looks awesome! | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 5629 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Letchworth/Basildon | djwilma - 2/4/2014 11:07 AM Dazz the clutch kept going on the metro, not due to the power, but due to misalignment of the cam cover engine mount (being made by eye) The std 220 turbo clutch will be all you need 250lbft torque is not a lot, nor is the 7500rpm limit The clutch i bought you, was also fitted to a 1.8 turbo k with 300lbft torque in an elise and has no problems. So dont worry too much about a sierra clutch, as they are no better than the 220 turbos ![]() And can i beat Sean first before you get this on the road and destroy the elise......please Also as said on Facebook the original bonnet would be better for a turbo, you want to get air out of the engine bay not it ![]() You don't half chat some bollocks Dylan ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | AdrianSi - 3/4/2014 12:40 PM Love the bell housing work. not entirely sure what youre going to do with that, but i look forward to seeing it :) Are you going to run with the steels? Looks awesome! Need to weld a plate for the starter and weld it all together I'm looking at getting some rota grid drifts ![]() Edited by dazz 111 3/4/2014 3:14 PM | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Haven't done much, just saving for goodies at the minute made some side impact bars ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Well, ordered the clutch, should take around 2 weeks Made a front splitter up, fibreglass backed carbonfibre faced...looks good imo ![]() ![]() ![]() Next thing I'll be moulding will be the rear spoiler and the interior | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | Think the splitter and the side bits look awesome !! Nice moulding work, really jealous, all the fibreglassing ive ever done has ended up a spectacular mess ! | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Thanks, all I done was watch a few videos on YouTube for tips etc | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Got some tie bars fitted now ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Building the Bellhousing got a little easier, I bought a type 9 to rover k series Bellhousing and jigged the engine and gearbox up ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2812 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Bournemouth | Boom | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | New clutch, 225mm 1" 23t spline!! Do hope it works ![]() | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2812 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Bournemouth | How many times do i have to tell you wasnt the clutch but the engine mounts and misalignment Tis a nice clutch though | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | I mean if it fits and works with the rover 220 pressure plate lol, be a waste if not!! It's about half the weight of a normal clutch what is good for the whp I guess | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Nearly finished the bellhousing at last! Just needs a few welds inside and the welds outside tidying up ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() and my carbon fibre guard I made ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 8490 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Midlands | Wow! Wasn't expecting that! Are you going to get the 2 mounting faces skimmed parallel now? | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | I'm hoping it don't need it | ||
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![]() drive it like its hired ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I think you will be fine there. Looks like a nice piece of work! I would use a couple of dowels or dead size bolts (in a couple of holes) to make sure it cant move about. Edited by petrol_head 27/6/2014 10:08 AM | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Thanks, all the original dowls have been used, and all the bolts are well fitting to the holes so should be okay there ![]() Main thing I'm worried about is heat distortion...I've taken about a week to weld it up, little bits every night after work | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2812 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Bournemouth | Strength would be my only issue A lot of force going through the bell housing and "it looks" thin | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2029 ![]() ![]() Location: sittingbourne, kent | Trust me it is very strong in comparison to the caterham alloy cast bell housing which is surprisingly thin | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | I'll put extra strong engine mounts and gearbox mounts on too take a bit of strain off it | ||
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![]() drive it like its hired ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | djwilma - 28/6/2014 8:42 PM Strength would be my only issue A lot of force going through the bell housing and "it looks" thin Your kidding?, you could probably put 20 tonne on that thing. | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Now to get it powdercoated ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Offered the engine up to the car, everything should fit quite nicely...should be room for a nice equal length manifold too Also The parts I've recently got for the kit car, alloy fuel tank, race technology dash with leads etc, 10mx1m woven fibreglass for the bonnet bulge ill need, poly bush kit for the front, stainless steel turbo flange, 600mmx3000mm sheet of alloy mesh for moulding the interior out of and then carbon fibre over the top of it and a perforated 3" tube for the carbon fibre exhaust ill be making ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Engine mounts done, made out of 3mm thick steel ![]() ![]() | ||
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![]() Veteran Posts: 424 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: 13.9 @ 98mph 160vvc NA power | I'm doing something sort of the same in my 1960's ford 100e 1,8 k Caterham bellhousing and type 9 box. Yours looks great some real nice work! | ||
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![]() Veteran Posts: 424 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: 13.9 @ 98mph 160vvc NA power | I'm doing something sort of the same in my 1960's ford 100e 1,8 k Caterham bellhousing and type 9 box. Yours looks great some real nice work! | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | I've been watching your thread, your project will be great fun when it's done | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Not done a lot really, welded the petrol tank cage, and test fitted the 1.4t in also bought some tubing for the manifold ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Member Posts: 25 ![]() | pretty nawty project | ||
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![]() Regular Posts: 241 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Germany | Was this ever finished? Looks good! Edited by forcker 29/11/2015 12:15 AM | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 592 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: kent | Nope, I ended up selling this and buying a new chassis, but I gave up with the new chassis too | ||
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![]() Extreme Veteran Posts: 586 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: brighouse just shy huddersfield | nooo I hope you still have that engine it needs to go back in a tro ? | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 2029 ![]() ![]() Location: sittingbourne, kent | pickford - 2/12/2015 8:37 PM nooo I hope you still have that engine it needs to go back in a tro ? it is going back in a tro ![]() | ||