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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi Got this off fleabay: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Car's done 85,000 miles and I drove it 200 when I picked it up and it ran well and no obvious big problems. Had some service history and past MOTC's and had been in pretty much daily use. It's an Ascot SE in Hawaiian Blue and a 1.1 multipoint. Quite nippy and surprising good for the mileage it's done. So I need to name her, yes it's a she to me (names welcome)before next steps of checking it over. More to come soon. | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | something cute like Bluebell ![]() ![]() | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Cake_Destroyer - 22/8/2014 12:11 AM something cute like Bluebell ![]() ![]() That's a good idea, I like that name as it has other memories for me also so will keep this in mind. Cheers. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | DotMatrix - 22/8/2014 7:05 AM congrats with the car ![]() Currently considering taking it through a stepped approach towards being a VCC sleeper. First job is to see if it is good as it looks in all the usual hidden places and to see if Mr Rot has made some visits. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Update Mr Rot has been sneaky. First glance looks like she has only some minor rust/rot found but on closer inspection and poking we found Mr Rot's been very busy trying to reduce this R100 to cornflakes. Some pictures to come of the initial discovery...... So you'd think it looks in good clean order then? On inspection... ![]() Was not expoecting to see Mr Rot here! ![]() View from outside n/s wheel arch. ![]() General boot observations - not too bad you think? ![]() Still nothing too bad? ![]() Some previous owner welding job - Mr Rot attacking it with vigour! ![]() O/S showing early signs of rotty? ![]() Floorpan not looking too bad? ![]() Drivers front footwell - very good considering? ![]() Nearside footwell even better? Well after viewing the inside shots, do you all think she's ok and I can give a sigh of relief? - or do you think Mr Rot has been a little forgiving or a rather sneaky sod here? The story unfolds.... Edited by MetroGaz 26/8/2014 6:34 PM | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | On lifting of the front black rubber soundproofing we found that Mr Rot had been creating some windows in the floor so we could see the road and then metal was weak around jacking points etc so looks like some bigger plating is needed on both sides. Rot really is present in all the usual places you get it on these Rovers. Some external shots coming of what we found areas behind front panel, rear bumber panel and side covers etc. Internal first look ![]() Became this.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() MG Edited by MetroGaz 29/8/2014 9:09 PM | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Further investigation. Externally. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oops the fillers fallen out! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So eventually we have done all the Rot hunting and identified all potential areas wanting repair - if this car is to be saved. So a liitle disappointed with the amount found given first observations, but it just shows what a liitle digging can find and first impression is not allways the best one. Better to find all rust and rot early, rather than decide to spend cash on the car only to find it is as leaky as a sieve! MG | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | 111Sli - 29/8/2014 11:45 PM Fillered arches haven't helped ![]() ![]() Yes, correct the arches are still full of filler from whatever the previous owner had done and I will stick with them for now and hope they last a little while. Therafter I will no doubt have to fit new arches in if I keep her long term. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Phase II commences - Enter MP Member 'MetroBruce' and his trusty anglegrinder! ![]() The story develops.... | ||
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![]() Elite Veteran Posts: 763 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | MetroGaz - 30/8/2014 3:43 PM Phase II commences - Enter MP Member 'MetroBruce' and his trusty anglegrinder! ![]() The story develops.... hahahahahahaha this is my best side | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi all Time for a quick update on Phase II works. Welding is something I want to learn but have not done as yet and therefore my only real option to save this car was to call on the services of a proper bodyshop welder and pay for some work to be done professionally. I see many stories about welders just plating over rotten areas and then seeing it stil go rotten again, so I wanted the proper process to be done, i.e get all the rotten areas cut out and back to good clean metal. So enter 'Metrobruce' and his angle grinding skills to hunt out and remove anything he did not like the look of after telling him I want to save this car and possibly improve on it and buy it a few good years of further life. Metrobruce has to make a living so has to charge reasonable hourly rates for such work which I fully understand, so if any of you need any welding doing (if you can't do it yourself!) then please consider speaking to Metrobruce - he is based in the Barnsley area of South Yorkshire. I had no concerns about his location as I was willing to dirive my car to the right man to do the job! So a few pictures of his work will follow. MG | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Phase II works by Metrobruce. ![]() Four visible new windows fitted in floor ![]() ![]() Mr Rot laid on floor - dead. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Make's one want to weep at seeing all these cut out rotten bits! ![]() The story unfolds..... MG | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Phase III Update - repair panel work The 'Metrobruce' attack! Rotten metal cut out and new plates welded in and primed. Front Nearside ![]() Front Offside ![]() Rear Nearside ![]() Rear Offside ![]() Overview of Nearside ![]() Rear Offside hatch floor area ![]() Offside Rear corner ![]() Rear Nearside hatch floor and Arch mod ![]() Nearside external arch shot - repair visible but all now undersealed ![]() Super job by 'Metrobruce' and thanks due to him - highly reccomended for any welding tasks. ![]() Edited by MetroGaz 7/9/2014 9:58 PM | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Got 'MetroBruce' to weld in some Ralph front top shocker mounts while he was there. ![]() MG Edited by MetroGaz 10/9/2014 7:03 PM | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | Hats off to Metrobruce some top work there ! Eagerly awaiting phase IV ! | ||
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![]() Elite Veteran Posts: 763 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Cake_Destroyer - 8/9/2014 1:18 AM Hats off to Metrobruce some top work there ! Eagerly awaiting phase IV ! thankyou | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Some more pictures... Back in dry garage now and up on axel stands. ![]() Now fully undersealed; A few light rust patches on tailgate and around sunroof dealt with; Inside welding further tiger sealed and brush painted. Rear arches and suspension. ![]() All cleaned and greased; Brakes and handbrake all overhauled; Just need to fit rear Arb when I get all parts; Later will be individualising cans; Droop Stops to fit. Rear offside. ![]() MetroBruce's immaculate quarter panel repair (was a rotten hole here). Nearside Cill ![]() MetroBruce panel repair and full length angle iron linking front to back jacking points to create a good amount of extra strength to area. Nearside rear ![]() MetroBruce's excellent repairs to what were rotten areas on earlier shots. Rear Panel ![]() MetroBruce repaired and sealed. Offside Cill ![]() MetroBruce repaired and sealed. Underside shot ![]() A good degree of underseal underway. Inside ![]() First paint of whole Tiger sealed and plated areas. Final phase will be to coat floor in non visible areas (ie where carpets cover) with Bitumen water proof paint. Front ![]() Some general tidying up and getting ready to re-fit front. Front arches all underseled and everything greased and checked, ready for re-assembly and putting back down on wheels. MG Edited by MetroGaz 10/9/2014 7:12 PM | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | End of Sept, yes another month flys by and few minor tasks done on Bluebell. ![]() 'Tub' now bitumen coated. ![]() Sunroof drains re-routed out of cills ![]() CD/MP3 player to fill the gap - thanks to 'itsonlyme'. ![]() GTI Clock pod fitted - Not fully checked on road for accuracy or full working as yet. Thanks to matty.h ![]() ZR160 Rear view Mirror slotted on - all the better for seeing you disappear into the distance! - Thanks to local Scrapyard Car about to be put back on road for test and then dry storage until next phase of some kind of engine transplant occurs ![]() | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Rear Arb (when I get new bushes and droplinks) and rear Droop stops and better Steering wheel to fit. Any ideas on best place to get bushes, droplinks and Droop Stops (Ralph has none) appreciated. MG | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | Rear droop stops i have - will drop ypu a text | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | MetroGaz - 30/9/2014 11:19 PM Rear Arb (when I get new bushes and droplinks) and rear Droop stops and better Steering wheel to fit. Any ideas on best place to get bushes, droplinks and Droop Stops (Ralph has none) appreciated. MG if you wish a larger drop stop how about this one (cut it down to desired length) : http://minispares.com/product/Classic/Suspension/Front/Hydro/21A1520.aspx or this one for a std one: http://minispares.com/product/Classic/Suspension/Rear/Hydro/21A1517.aspx | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Thanks to Cake Destroyer and DotMatrix for the replies, appreciated. MG | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | about drop-stop's: ralph have previously had some of these. I use powerflex bushes and always been happy with them, if you find them on ebay they tend to be as cheap as you can get them anywhere. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Well decided to do a little odd job today on her. Took old rear (non existant) bump stop off and fitted new Ralph Droop Stop and Spacer. Picture one - old one off. ![]() Picture Two - The old and the new. ![]() Picture Three - fitted and working. ![]() MG | ||
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![]() Transport Guru MP Moderator Posts: 4947 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Bromley, Kent | What did you think of the difference it made? Best cheap mod/ maintenance I ever done to my Metros. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi 111Sli Not sure as yet as she is still up on stands while I sort rear Arb and a few minor points at rear - Twin fogs in bumper etc. But pretty sure it will make a great improvment and even up in the air the wheel looks better held. Most folk I spoke to said it makes a great improvement, but I will report my own findings next week. Thanks to Cake Destroyer for the Droop Stops as Ralph had none in at the moment. MG | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | hurry up and spray that subframe inside and out with some rust proofing before it rusts away ![]() | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi DM I knew someone would spot and suggest this, so thanks for your keen eye and keep up the comments as I welcome suggestions, good or bad. I will soon have another sub frame sandblasted and powder coated to swop into it and while its out I can underseal some other areas and get the hydro pipes taken off and individualised. Whilst existing one looks bad it is actually in quite good condition for a 90,000 miler and is staying in there while I get front done - more on this in due course ![]() Thanks MG | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | HI All Well I know some of you like to see the nitty gritty dirty hands on jobs done so here I have just fitted a rear arb. All straightforward but a few notes below. A very tight fit of offside rear polybush and bracket - just shows how badly some panel akignment and bracket fixings are - towing eye bracket was existing. ![]() Nearside arb braket from Ralph and a straight forward fit. ![]() Offside - 'C' links and Droplinks are Ralph's supply. ![]() Nearside ![]() Nothing else really planned short term other than a bit more body tidying up and undersealing/waxolying etc. MG | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | looks really good. you will be very happy with that rear arb ![]() | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi One for DotMatrix Not a great shot but hope you can make out a mainly undersealed subframe, just to ensure it lasts a while until I make next plans. ![]() Hopefully back on the road tomorrow - if weather is dry! MG | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi Was it worth it? My journey into Tro land. As bought on Ebay: ![]() £700 later: ![]() Spot the bloody difference - It looks no better now on ouside but underneath its a different car! Needs a next sleeper stage....and some MPI wheels MG Edited by MetroGaz 17/10/2014 5:01 PM | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | Actually looks alot more loved now though ! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi Maybe I get mirrors and petrol cap and cill covers painted to match? What about removing the grey rub strips and side stripes? Thoughts? MG | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 925 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Thinking of vvc'ing my Roadster Brabus :-) | That towing eye bracket looks like that it has been pulled back, (like its been used for towing), undue the 2 nuts inside the car and move it back to where it should be. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Dave 20VTRO - 18/10/2014 10:11 PM That towing eye bracket looks like that it has been pulled back, (like its been used for towing), undue the 2 nuts inside the car and move it back to where it should be. Yes - good advice and will do this on Monday. Thanks. MG | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | MetroGaz - 18/10/2014 10:31 PM Dave 20VTRO - 18/10/2014 10:11 PM That towing eye bracket looks like that it has been pulled back, (like its been used for towing), undue the 2 nuts inside the car and move it back to where it should be. Yes - good advice and will do this on Monday. Thanks. DONE and it did move back a few mm. MG Edited by MetroGaz 22/10/2014 10:46 PM | ||
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formerly p319 hok Posts: 1965 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Under a car somewhere | Sill covers,cap and mirrors definately Sidestrips, i lile them without, hace a.look through the journals and see if you can find pics - think it cleans up the looks of the side of the car | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hopefully some news soon. But as a reminder this was Bluebell in Decemeber 2014 after much work to remove rot and rust and to sort all suspension. brakes, internals etc and then with a bit of painting to some parts. Wheels are away for powdercoating etc. ![]() MG | ||
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![]() Expert Posts: 4458 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jelling, Denmark | so you still have the car and it is running as it should? | ||
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Veteran Posts: 335 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: York, tis Cold Up North! | Hi M It was running great as a 1.1 mpi motor and very reliable, but things are a changing as you will see on here soon, I hope. MG | ||
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![]() MP Admin Posts: 17870 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Gloucester | Top work, how are you finding the polybushes? I fitted the same to mine and it transformed the car! | ||